Today I hosted a special Substack LIVE conversation with two essential voices in our democracy: Sue Gordon, former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence under Donald Trump, and Jonathan Capehart, Pulitzer-winning journalist and MSNBC host.
One spent her career in the shadows protecting America’s secrets — and the other in the spotlight exposing uncomfortable truths. But as Sue notes, intelligence and journalism are “sister” professions. And in this moment, they’re saying the same thing: We’re in serious trouble. Here’s what we covered:
The misuse of intelligence agencies under Trump;
Reckless new conspiracy theories about the 2016 election;
How essential government services are being turned into tools of revenge;
Purges of public servants who don’t say what the President wants;
…and the risk of irreversible danger if Americans tune out.
Watch/listen to the full episode above, and please share with your networks.
(P.S. Thank you Dianne Mize, Noble Blend, MB Matthews, she/her, Wendy E, Judith Evans, and many others for tuning in!)
