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Bad Bunny's avatar

It's not just ICE that's roaming our suburbs like a zombie army. It's Border Patrol, DHS, Customs FBI, DEA, US Marshal Service and any number of other enforcers from every three-letter agency. They've essentially been press-ganged into the affray.

This ragtag assortment obviously creates all kinds of command-and-control issues which exacerbate the situation at street level. Lack of a well-defined, singular command structure is a recipe for chaos. It empowers individual agents to take matters into their own hands, often in a way that contradicts the commands of the guy next to them. ("MOVE YOUR VEHICLE!" "GET OUT OF THE CAR!")

There hasn't been much focus on this, and it's causing serious problems.

The state Guards don't suffer from this disability and if it ever comes to a faceoff between them and the camo mob, it won't go well for the latter.

ms's avatar

& that Agent who killed Renee Good had 10yrs job experience-not a new recruit. When the CBP Commander-Bovino shows up-he escalates the bad behavior as a performance-plus he's a sociopath

Mike Hammer's avatar

And don’t pretend we did Nazi it.

It's Come To This's avatar

MAGA is beginning to shatter. It's up to us to make sure they'll never be able to pick up the pieces and glue them together again.

ms's avatar

don't bet on it, the grievances & hate are too deeply ingrained-they will find another to hitch their hive mind to. The only thing we can hope for is that the rest of the American people have woken up enough that They won't accept another Sociopathic Dictator ever again!

Star Aasved's avatar

I saw that comment from Rogan yesterday and it allowed me a sigh of relief. For anyone who needs a bit of comic relief, I recommend Kimmel's opening dialog from last night, his “MAGA Sack” bit got my husband and I laughing.

In seriousness, though, I hope Rogan's words signal a greater shift on the part of Trump supporters. ICE is damn scary and their increasing attacks on American citizens should cause more to speak up.

However, I am greatly concerned that we, the people, will reach a boiling point and that is just what Trump is hoping for. If he declares a National Emergency against citizens, it may allow him to suspend elections by pushing Congress to do so.

I'm strong in my support of our group actions and fighting agains the regime. At the same time, it scares the bejesus out of me.

Kenneth Gilbert's avatar

MAGA sack--the best laugh I've had in a long time, Star. Thank you!

Kenneth Gilbert's avatar

Maybe we should deliver MAGA sacks with the Constitutions....

return to normalcy's avatar

Loved Kimmel's MAGA Sack. I told my friend I wanted one for my birthday!!!!! 🥳 😜

return to normalcy's avatar

Loved Kimmel's MAGA Sack. I told my friend I wanted one for my birthday!!!!! 🥳 😜

BeechBum's avatar

ICE IS.... ISIS

Ann Kramer's avatar

I'm glad to see Rogan calling this out--

One of the best shows I ever listened to on Joe Rogan Experience was #2399. It was with Daryl Davis and Jeff Schoep. Daryl Davis is a black man who has made a life around helping folks in KKK, Neo-Nazi etc., get out . Jeff Schoep was part of the Neo-nazis for like 27 years until he met Daryl Davis--and then left. Now he too works to help people leave/change too. It is well worth the listen.

And I think it reflects why Rogan is now calling out ICE--realizing that they were like Jeff Schoep was and this is not a good thing!

MM Harris's avatar

I appreciate Rogan's calling this out as well. It's not easy for MAGA people to even think that their dear leader may have been successfully lying to and manipulating them for years, and an even bigger step to question, then admit it..... and then leave the movement. This will be really helpful.

EDH's avatar

Facing the truth is always hard for Americans. Now Democracy is no longer a spectator sport. Time to wake up!

Jim Johnson's avatar

My No Kings poster--made last June--includes a picture of Tufts University student Rumeysa Ozturk surrounded by masked ICE agents right before she was snatched and whisked away in an unmarked ICE vehicle, with the caption "NO THUGS!"

Sardonically funny, that picture of Ms. Ozturk being abducted by ICE seems almost quaint now. At least the events since then have even the MAGA-verse starting to recognize the Gestapo-like thuggery now.

Nancy's avatar

MAGAStopo in action! Wish I had coined that term!

MM Harris's avatar

I'd forgotten about the Ozturk kidnapping. It was shocking and terrifying. And even though most of us who have followed certain figures for YEARS knew this would be a challenging time, we never thought it'd become what it has, which is downright unbelievable and beyond frightening (and bound to get even worse). We've been spoiled. I keep thinking about immigrants who came here to ESCAPE the exact environment we are all now currently experiencing. I don't think long-time anti-immigration people understood it. Maybe now they will begin to. (And maybe they will participate in insisting that schools update history classes to ensure students REALLY "get" it... then also insist on focusing on how a democratic government should work, learning how to think critically, and the importance of being an active, informed voter.... and then ensure their kids "get it" also..... IF we make it out of this mess alive.

Kenneth Gilbert's avatar

It IS that. A private army of mercenary reactionary militia members now on the US payroll. Kind of like the German Shepherds used to attack the civil rights marchers, only uglier and less intelligent, but equally vicious. It's the type of force one might want if one were going to attempt an armed rebellion, or put one down. Just sayin'

Nancy's avatar

Someone used the term MAGASTOPO! Seems fitting!

return to normalcy's avatar

I haven't been afraid to call what's going on what it really is. I've been saying it since trump one & said it over & over again during the election. I knew what he would do & he's doing it. I will admit that they are moving more swiftly then I had anticipated though I started to get the inkling when I kept hearing that 120 days timeline. That's just about how long the Nazis took to radically change Germany after Hitler became Chancellor & finally Führer. It did take longer for the German people to become fully engaged in the killing of Jews, Communists, the mentally & physically challenged but eventually many did go along & too many more just ignored what was happening.

~~~The 4 years between trump's presidencies gave him plenty of time to whip his supporters in shape & get their mindset primed for what is going on now! The fact that 40% of the population seems to support this criminal regime is appalling. Today is my Mom's birthday. She was born in 1907 & would tell me that the US would rot from within. Seems she was right! I never did argue that point, I think even at a young age I could see her wisdom in stating that. Now I'd say she was clairvoyant!

So, what do we do now? Now that we have our very own secret & not so secret police forcefully rounding people up.

I saw on Chris Hayes last night that a woman in Minneapolis was asked if she where any Hmongs & Asians lived. I don't know if anyone followed up on that assertion but it would fit nicely in white supremacy wouldn't it? I lived in the California Central Valley for over 30 years. There is a sizeable Hmong population both first generation & now 2nd & 3rd. They are responsible for much of the strawberry crop in the central valley. They are expert farmers & they grow a variety of produce. There was a huge outcry when they settled there. All the old timers complained that they were stealing jobs. Yep, their lily white sons would have worked picking strawberries all day or working the fields, sure they took "WHITE" jobs! There were no round-ups back then will we see them now?

I have no faith & very little hope that Magats will finally see the error in picking a virulently narcissistic man-child pledged to make America White again & fulfilling his psychopathic desire for revenge. We are in for some dark times & now he's going to sit in with the Prime Minister of Greenland. What kind of horrific treatment will that group of foreign dignitaries receive? Or will he just throw them in jail & declare Greenland is ours?! I guess I'll find out pretty soon.

Tune in again tomorrow for "As the trump stumps"!

ms's avatar

Any ideas why Real Fed Agents-FBI,DEA,ATF, Marshalls Service have not resigned in mass -upholding their Oath &Refusing to participate in Lawlessness? Esp in light of this brutal escalation.

Is there anything Defiance-along w/ some of your former colleagues could do to warn of the expected escalation leading up to midterms-this is going to get REALLY BAD!

DT is terrified of Dem Congress, & the consequences. He & his lawless minions WILL DO ANYTHING to avoid this. All our State Officials need to be ready for anything.

Timothy Snyder & Barbara F Walter (& you) have already issued warnings-but there needs to be LOUD voices speaking out to the Public. Any Ideas?

Dawn's avatar

There is no doubt at this point, the documented evidence clearly shows us that ICE/DHS evolved into a gestapo-like private army only serving the dictatorial whims of DJT. I am not surprised about Miles Taylor's accounts of DJT during Trump 1.0 administration looking for agents "out of central casting" vs legit law enforcement creds to be hired. There is nothing worst than a stupid malignant narcissist being handed the keys to the Oval Office...Predictably, such a person without an honorable character hires sycophants that mirror 🪞 his worst impulses & characteristics. No doubt, DJT has poisoned the ICE/CBP well, which means it needs to be abolished - for the good and safety of all inhabitants of the United States.

Randy S. Eisenberg's avatar

Thanks for this, the inside perspective is always enlightening, but in a very, very dark manner. Like a few other trumpaga refugees we learn, but the path forward in any united, collective front seems to still be MIA. A face of a leader would help and likely be effective though unintentional. My bet at the moment is Mark Kelly, he probably doesn’t want the job but with the full, gangster might of the criminal-in-chief they’re coming after him. But like we used to say about Russian toilet paper, “he don’t take no shit from nobody”.

IllinoisImYourBoy's avatar

Thank you, for this piece, MT! Thank you for sharing the inner workings of a sick (and sickening) regime that needs to be cast out of the White House … 🕊️

MM Harris's avatar

Enlightening, helpful post, Miles. I knew we'd be in trouble when not long after (maybe RIGHT after?) the ride down the escalator, he announced that all Mexicans coming over the border were murderers & rapists. I'm not of Hispanic descent but was highly offended by that, and quite concerned because it suggested a future devoid of the truth, and of mean-spiritedness & divisiveness. It is shocking to learn just how bad it was "behind the scenes" in just the first term. Well beyond what we were seeing as common citizens. I'm so sorry you and others had to deal with that. But it is helpful to know about it because it means that whatever motivates him is deeply entrenched, so could be even harder to confront and fight against. Really GRATEFUL for the dangerous work you do.